{"id":31602,"date":"2022-05-10T16:22:23","date_gmt":"2022-05-10T16:22:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cjstudents.com\/?p=31602"},"modified":"2022-05-10T16:22:23","modified_gmt":"2022-05-10T16:22:23","slug":"danielle-ponder-fights-for-change-on-the-stage-and-in-the-courtroom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cjstudents.com\/index.php\/2022\/05\/10\/danielle-ponder-fights-for-change-on-the-stage-and-in-the-courtroom\/","title":{"rendered":"Danielle Ponder Fights for Change on the Stage and in the Courtroom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Danielle Ponder grew up in a musical family. Her father, a pastor, has music pouring out of him, singing in church and at home on their piano. She had a family band, formed when she was 16 with her cousins in a house they all lived in together in the suburbs. But 16 was a pivotal year in Ponder\u2019s world in more ways than one.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt the same age that I got my guitar, that was the same age my brother went away to prison for 20 years,\u201d she tells SPIN. \u201cHe was there because of policy. One of the policies was mandatory minimums \u2014 and if these are policies, then there\u2019s something we can do about it. We can change policy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Years spent visiting her brother in the Attica Correctional Facility showed Ponder the clear flaws in the criminal justice system that put him there. That\u2019s when she became interested in criminal justice reform, but wanted to do more direct service work at the same time \u2014 so she took on an emotionally taxing career as a public defender.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeing a public defender was the best way for me to actually be standing next to folks and representing them,\u201d she says. \u201cYou think about your 16-year-old client who was in jail for not having a bell on his bike. You think about your client who was sentenced to 1-3 years in state prison for driving on a suspended license. You think about being Black, and being Black in the system that is absolutely set up to destroy the Black community. Being Black and being in the criminal justice system was probably the heaviest thing of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=M1hHFJSUo00\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=M1hHFJSUo00<\/a><noscript><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=M1hHFJSUo00\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=M1hHFJSUo00<\/a><\/noscript><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the same breath, Ponder speaks with a clear fondness for the clients she worked with over her 8 years as a public defender.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have so many stories of folks who were just so loving and grateful that I was standing next to them,\u201d Ponder says. \u201cThe opportunity to really advocate for someone and to push against this fucked up system and to stand up against the big system \u2014 right next to someone who\u2019s being marginalized \u2014 it was hard, but at the same time, it was fulfilling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That guitar Ponder picked up at 16 never left her steady hand though. She laughs as she considers the fact that she never took music seriously until she went to law school. \u201cNot until I was 30-something was I like \u2018What the fuck am I doing? I should really focus on music.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Music was a pendulum swinging between two worlds for her. She wanted the artistic path, but her career goals never waned. She wanted to be a lawyer rather than a struggling artist, because she knew poverty all too well from her upbringing. Becoming an attorney was her way out of that. And while music and public defending may be two seemingly disparate roads, they intersect in places where most might not notice.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Danielle Ponder - Radiohead Creep Cover\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yogKiVhZphI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><noscript><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Danielle Ponder - Radiohead Creep Cover\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yogKiVhZphI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/noscript><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou know, my job as an attorney is to really tell my client\u2019s story,\u201d Ponder says. \u201cMost public defense work is mitigation. You get the state law saying \u2018This person did X, Y and Z.\u2019 They\u2019re a terrible person in their story, and we get to explore a broader picture. I feel like my job is to say to the court, \u2018Hold on, let\u2019s talk about the whole person. Let\u2019s look at the whole picture here.\u2019 [It\u2019s similar to songwriting in that] I can take an emotion, and then the songwriter gets to dig deeper into that emotion. They get to dig deeper into what they might have been bringing to the table emotionally \u2014 or what you weren\u2019t bringing to the table emotionally. We get to discuss those nuances.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ponder has left being a lawyer behind for now. While she still holds her license to practice, she\u2019s focused on her music. But her advocacy work doesn\u2019t let up outside of the courtroom, always trying to educate her audience about what goes on in court and the flawed workings of the criminal justice system.<\/p>\n<p>Her full-time switch to music has made Ponder a singular talent on a meteoric rise. She\u2019s recently seen her audience grow in numbers with her cover of Radiohead\u2019s \u201cCreep\u201d and a captivating entry into NPR\u2019s Tiny Desk contest, but her passion for being a lawyer hasn\u2019t dulled.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of my biggest takeaways from being a public defender \u2014 and what I love about the work \u2014 is you enter into this place with no judgment,\u201d she says. \u201cIt literally doesn\u2019t matter what the person comes to you with, as far as what you\u2019re going to do. You\u2019re going to stand up next to this person and try to find the good, even if the state presents a pile of \u2018bad.\u2019 I just think of how beautiful it is to be the person who has to dig through and say \u2018Wait a second\u2026\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s something that I\u2019ve learned from that job,\u201d she continues. \u201cYou get to start seeing the good in everyone. You get to see the perspective of someone. You get to see yourself in someone else\u2019s shoes. I think doing that work has really changed my worldview, because it\u2019s like \u2018OK, this happened \u2014 or maybe it didn\u2019t happen \u2014 but I\u2019m here for you and we\u2019re gonna work through it together.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><script>\n  !function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s)\n  {if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};\n  if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';\n  n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;\n  t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];\n  s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window, document,'script','https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/fbevents.js');\n  fbq('init', '913237892731778');\n  fbq('track', 'PageView');\n<\/script><br \/>\n<br \/>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.spin.com\/2022\/05\/danielle-ponder-criminal-justice-reform\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ad_1] Danielle Ponder grew up in a musical family. 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